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so today was lame, so im just gona skip to the philosophy.

idk how many of you guys are familiar with Nietzsche, and/or his philosophies, but a few days ago i stumbled across one of his thoughts. it is that God is dead. now, please dont be offended by this.

"God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?"
—Nietzsche, The Gay Science

i wana hear what you guys think of this. i was talking to one of my teachers about this, and he wrote it off as another one of Nietzsche's drunkin rambles. i say its more than that. i say he meant that the thought of God is dead, that we have progressed in sciences enough to no longer need God. religions were created for 3 things: to explain the unexplainable, to conect a mass group of people, and to give hope.

now that our society is conectable through phones/computers, science can explain theories for everything, and we should be able to get hope from our government. the only purpose of God now is to suply hope, and definite answers to what science has theories to.

now, i disagree with Nietzsche. God is not dead. however, He is dieing. he will cling onto life until Science has definite answers, or atleast stronger theories, and until governments take away our need for hope.

lets hear what you guys have to say!

Peace!

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sorry kid, that theory that science has explained, or, is about to explain everything is a gross overstatement!! Science has barely scratched the surface of explaining most of what has been created... In fact the whole point of science is an attempt at understanding things that are really inexplicable... resulting in theories that constantly change, madly scrambling in the shadow of perfection...

To say that religions were created to explain the inexplicable, is simplistic-- the understanding and connection to a higher power is not as mysterious or simple as that... It is, in fact, inexplicable in it's simplicity. True belief, based on a connection, needs no explanation... it just is-- like knowing that the color you're looking at is the same as you saw yesterday. Once you feel the love of God, you will have no doubt.

I think that the world steals our hope at an early age... Many people spend their lives, trying to reacquire what they instinctively know they've lost... It is the grinding doubt of the Nietzsches, Shelleys and Rands that wears on the psych of searching people and, with clever rhetoric gives refuge to the weary traveller that lacks the perseverance to reconnect and find the love that awaits each and every one of us who believes.

I also think that the lunatic fringe, and the corrupt church, soil the Message, and it becomes reasonable to steer a wide berth around that association... I do the same thing, but understand that these people are not representative of the true faith or the correct path... They simply have loud voices- we have been warned in Scriptures of that very thing. Man is fallible. Too many confuse and conflate that with a good reason not to continue their quest. I worry that they are doomed to wander, never accepting His love, and, strength that can be such a valuable asset in life... No amount of money or theory can replace that, at least in my life... love, tman<3

A Wandering Pom said...

Hi there, Spys

I guess this is the most famous quote from Nietzsche's work: God is dead. It's a pretty dramatic thing to say. Unfortunately, I haven't read Nietzsche's work at all, so I don't know the context in which he believed this to be so.

It's not true that science can explain everything - very far from it - but I would like to think, at least, that the scientific method is capable of enabling us to understand everything eventually. But at present, even in the areas conventionally thought of as "science" there's a great deal we don't understand. Physics now feels to me a lot as I imagine it did a hundred years ago, with plenty of unexplained data from astronomy (dark matter, dark energy) and particle physics, but no theory to tie it all together - we're still waiting for a new Einstein. Genetics is a quagmire of data, without (as far as I know) even a decent naming system for genes, let alone a general, predictive theory.

I'm afraid that I very much doubt that governments will ever take away the need for hope. I think there will always be situations where hope is needed: we live in an imperfect world, and all too often it seems that governments are both the result and the cause of that imperfection. Perhaps it's just me getting old and cynical, but I find I have less and less trust and belief in human institutions as the years go by.

Anyway, I think that's it from me for tonight. As ever, I'm happy to talk about this here or via e-mail.

Take care

Mark

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